Where have all the computer nerds gone?

The other day I got asked to go to Hollywood and hang out with some other people and talk about my website with Yahoo!

When I was there I met 4 other people who have website. In the 3 hours that I was there, talking with those people, I got more ideas for things then I have had in months. It made me realize something; I miss hanging out with people who really enjoy programming for fun.

Sure I work for a big software company, and there are people all around me who write code but there is one important thing missing, fun. Work is work, you can only have so much fun when someone is telling you what to create and when it has to be done by. Most everyone I know here ends their computer life at 5pm every day when they leave work. I am not close with anyone who runs their own site, and writes their own tools. Basically I dont have any real computer nerd friends anymore. Dont get me wrong, I love the friends that I have, and wouldnt trade them for the world. I just wish I could have more technical conversations about computers with some of them.

In college I was surrounded by nerds, and I loved it. The people I was close with helped me to develop ideas mostly through conversation. If it was something great, we often teamed up and wrote a quick version of it. More often then not it was a tool to mess with other students in the computer lab, or figure out a way to get around the system admins. It was good times.

So here it is. I live in Redlands California (92373). Most of my evenings are free. I love computers, code, robots, electronics, hacking, mods, etc. (you get the picture).

If you want to hang out at a coffee shop or bar and talk about if windows vista is a rip off of OSX, or if the black mac book pro is actually worth spending the extra money on, if you want to argue about php, asp, and coldfusion we can do that also, knoppix or ubuntu?. Basically I want to meet some more people who share my passion about computers and gadgets in my area, simple as that.